- was der Teilnehmer "Ewing" im Forum "democratic underground" herausfand zum Thema konkreter Vorwarnungen einiger Israelis am 11.9., und hier auch noch ein Kommentar aus  Man kann es drehen und wenden, die israelische Besatzungspolitik brutal finden und so weiter, aber der 11. September hat mit Israel herzlich wenig zu tun. Mit der Ausnahme, dass die Warnungen des Mossad ignoriert wurden.

 I notice several secret services spying in several countries and having different foreknowldge. Well known is Echelon. In economics there is a lot of spying even between "friends". So what is special about the Mossad? We dont even know WHAT really happened - but there are people who say they know who did it. What?
Who did or did not combine the dots? Who did or did not scramble the interceptors?
The Mossad? The secret service which WARNED and fights terrorists (you may call them liberation fighters ...) worldwide? What the hell makes this secret service so interesting except that it was rather close to the so called hijackers? My guess is: the CIA was much closer. VERY close. Meltingly close. When I see i.e. Almihdhar - identically. Without proof - but with incredibly many hints. 
So who is obsessed to link Israel with 911? Whose damned idea could this be?
There is the story about the owner of the WTC, who maybe will gain a fortune by the insurance. But nowadays he lost a fortune. And all the companies in the WTC -Israeli and Arab ones - too. Who is "investigating" the involvement because of gains and losses? What sense does it make if not to layout red herrings?
Since "" offers a link
to this website, without apparently understanding what it says, with the words

" 10/13/02 Foreign web sites pick up more on the Israeli links into 9-11 and the US Government"

here is my statement:

I do NOT agree with any theory concerning an Israeli or jewish involvement in 9/11. I regard "whatreallyhappened" as an antisemitc site.

The Odigostory and the story about the young men who cheered and the information about ICTS are linked and told on this website since one year - since it happened. (So even the word of "pick up more" is wrong.)
Because we tell the facts - but we do not interpret them in this primitive way others do.
Since Robert Fisk and others informed us that two Mossad agents took a flight to Washington to warn the US-Government (did Mr. Ahmad of the Pakistani ISI the same when he was in Brainwashington? At the same time ...
Have a guess) there is nothing to blame on the Mossad. They did what BND and the French and the Russians and the Egyptians did. They shared their knowledge (which may have been much wider than that i.e. of the Egypts). That`s all ... 
So it is still the U.S. - intelligence to blame.

It was not the Mossad which kept the interceptors down or read pet goat stories.

     About Odigo:

This case is for me closed since months. I came to the conclusion, that Odigo was warned by insiders around the NeoCons.

     Here is the chain:

     Conrad Black owns Hollinger Inc. 
     One of his many directors is Richard Perl. 
     Hollinger also owns Israeli Yellow Pages.

     Furthermore Perle sits on the board of Jerusalem Post, who was concerned about their employees in an article on Sep11th.
     Later this article turned into the rumour, that 4000 employees didn't show up.

     But more interesting is that Hollinger Digital Inc. (the private equity arm of Hollinger International ) also invested in Onset Technology in August 2000 
     who work in a cooperation with Comverse Technology, Inc since October 2000 

     Comverse finally owns another communication company, which is Odigo since January 2001.

     The Odigo messenger warning was described at: 

     Alex Diamandis, the president of sales and marketing, claimed many employees received a warning a couple of hours before 8:53 AM on Sep11th.

     I couldn't find it out, but i'm sure ZIM or the Ofer Brothers have some friends at Hollinger, which would explain their prior knowledge. (Yes, i'm convinced that Richard Perle was one of the conspirators)

     But if the Mossad even knew that the attack would end in the towers, then they maybe warned them, too.

     While we are here, more about Hollinger Inc. and shadow man Conrad Black aka Lord Black of Crossharbour:

     Lord Black has held these or equivalent or similar positions since 1978. He currently serves as the Chairman and as a Director of Telegraph Group Limited, London, U.K., and as a Director of the Jerusalem Post, The Spectator (London); of Brascan Limited and the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce, both of which are public reporting companies in Canada, and as a director of Sotheby's
     Holdings, Inc. Conrad Black is Chairman of the Advisory Board of The National  Interest (Washington) and a member of the International Advisory Board of The Council on Foreign Relations (

     His wife Barbara Amiel Black is Vice President, Editorial and Director of Hollinger Inc.

     Mrs. Black was the editor of The Toronto Sun from 1983 to 1985, a columnist of The Times and senior political columnist of The Sunday Times of London from 1986 to 1994 and The Telegraph from 1994 to 1998.

     Paul B. Healy, Vice President, was a Vice President of The Chase Manhattan  Bank, N.A. for more than five years prior to October 1995.

     Dwayne O. Andreas, another director, was Chairman of President Reagan's Task Force on International Private Enterprise from 1983 to 1985.

     The Hon. Richard R. Burt, yet another director, was United States Ambassador to the Federal Republic of Germany (DDR) from 1985 to 1989.

     Shmuel Meitar, another director has also ties to Israel.  Mr. Meitar served as President of the Aurec Group which includes Golden Channels, the largest cable television franchise in Israel, and Golden Pages,  the Israeli Yellow Pages. Mr. Meitar has been a director of Jerusalem Post  since 1992 and also serves as a director of Golden Pages Ltd.

     Every director at Hollinger has interesting backgrounds, so i will list all of  them.

     Hon. Robert S. Strauss was United States Ambassador to the Russian  Federation until 1992 when he resigned and rejoined his former law firm. He  has also served as a Director of General Instruments Inc. from 1991 to 1997 and as a director of Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation from 1993 to 1998. 

     Lord Weidenfeld served as a Director of Hollinger Inc. from September 1993  until 1995. Lord Weidenfeld is a Director of The Jerusalem Post. 

     About Richard Perle you should check out my article at SCOOP.

     Finally "Mr. Everywhere", Henry Kissinger 
     He has served as a Director of the Company since February 1996.  More about Mr. Kissa$$ at the "911-folder" (KissA$$- kiss my a$$)

     About the Moving Systems story:

     "...The van belonged to a Mossad front company called Urban Moving Systems. Around 4 p.m. on Sept. 11, the van was pulled over, and five Israelis: Sivan and Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari, all between 22 and 27 years old... 

     According to the police report, one of the men said they had been on the West  Side Highway in Manhattan "during the incident" — referring to the World  Trade Center attack. Sivan Kurzberg, the driver, said, "We are Israeli. We are  not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem." 

     The case was turned over to the FBI's Foreign Counterintelligence Section because the FBI believed Urban Moving Systems was a “cover for an Israeli  intelligence operation,” ABC reported..."

     I guess, Moving Systems and even Daniel Levin on one of the planes knew a  lot, but haven't been able to connect all dots in time or got killed on purpose.

     They had been probably part of the arrested Spy Ring, who monitored the muslims at the flight schools and had first no clue what's going on.

     Another article (probably about the students, who filmed the attack), which didn't reveal much: 

     September 13, 2001 -- 

     "...Three men who celebrated as the 
     Twin Towers crumbled are facing deportation, The Post 
     has learned. The men, described as illegal immigrants 
     from the Middle East, were arrested Tuesday afternoon in 
     a white Chevy van near the Meadowlands based on a tip 
     from witnesses who saw them "cheering" and "jumping up 
     and down" in Liberty State Park after the attack, a 
     source said...

     ...Port Authority cops nabbed the three as they drove along 
     Route 3 in East Rutherford in the van, which had the 
     words "Urban Moving Systems" painted on it. After 
     grilling the men and searching the van in vain for 
     explosives, the FBI turned the men over to the 
     Immigration and Naturalization Service for deportation...

     ..."The agency has decided it will not make 
     any comments about this at this time," said INS 
     spokesman Kerry Gill. Officials at "Urban Moving" 
     claimed to be unaware of what had happened..."

     You should recognise, that the cops came from Port Authority,   which has connections to Larry Silverstein, the owner of the Twin Towers. The former Port Authority executive, Port Authority Chairman Lewis M. Eisenberg, is  member of some israeli organisations, i.e. the Republican Jewish Coalition

     He was later responsible for the logistic organisations after the collapse of the Twin Towers.

     In September 2001 he was working on an emergency plan for the Holland Tunnel.

     Interestingly, this Lewis Eisenberg is now campaigning for the Republicans:

     The Sears Tower (-video) link might have been a rumour on purpose.

     Another israel link is a private security company called ICTS. It's an israeli company which is operative at almost every US Airport, including the 4 Sep11th airports. This is however no real coincidence for me, because the israelis/Tel Aviv are famous for the best security in the world. However Boston Airport was probaly corrupted by some manipulations.

     Hope that's enough Israel, less Mossad and no anti-semitism enough for you  today. I still think the amount of different prior knowledge is still in the  majority here in the United States.


     Supporter of the 911-Scepticism Movement NYC, Washington, San Francisco, Ohio etc...

     Support public LIHOP-evidence now, SETUP later!

(c) Andreas Hauß, 2002, (survey)(c) Andreas Hauß, 2002,